(hand-AQ) (Position-BD) BB(20to30) Bubble

[bishamonten]

2 away from the money in a mid stakes MTT.


1) lets Let's assume we have no reads at all, and we base our decision on stacks/position. WWYD here?

2)lets assume mr shim is spewy and rob banks is solid and shipping his 10bb in good spots with out any show downs

This is a 20 dollar re-buy

Full Tilt Poker Game #11217568355: $11,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (84211248), Table 10 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em -
Seat 1: PETRIFIED (14,740)
Seat 2: killa714 (15,095)
Seat 4: MrShimSham (50,473)
Seat 5: MadamM (31,921)
Seat 7: rob banks (12,568)
Seat 8: bishamonten (25,386)
Seat 9: BKspeed17 (42,827)
PETRIFIED antes 150
killa714 antes 150
MrShimSham antes 150
MadamM antes 150
rob banks antes 150
bishamonten antes 150
BKspeed17 antes 150
bishamonten posts the small blind of 600
BKspeed17 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bishamonten [Qs Ac]
PETRIFIED folds
killa714 folds
MrShimSham raises to 3,000
MadamM folds
rob banks raises to 12,418, and is all in
bishamonten has 15 seconds left to act

[shaun]

With no read on my opponents I would probably fold here .

Knowing our opponents could both have wide ranges make this a difficult decision , if we win we could make a try for the top spots, I put some ranges into pokerstove to see how AQ played against your opponents likely range and they came out a three way coinflip. Also if you push and get the original raiser to fold this could alter your chances when you isolate the short stack.

Difficult decision I think you would also have to take into consideration the payout and how significant that is to you.

[mclucky]

This an easy iso shove imo. Can't imagine a reason to do anything else here. Not sure why you assume Mr Shim is spewey if you have no reads but he has a stack and is likely opening very wide on the bubble. I fistpumpisoshove here every time and expect to be HU flipping or ahead a lot.

[bishamonten]

I was just putting two scenarios out there the 2nd is my read at the table. I dont think it would have made much difference in my decision considering how deep his stack is and how wide he could be opening. spewy may have not been the best word but he opens and fold to any rehove even to some super small stacks.

i have no need to limp into the money i would like to build a stack for the final table so I took Mclucky"s line and jammed it

at the time I thought it was a easy shove but after I discussed it with a friend of mine it was much more marginal then I thought.

It became a decent thread on p5 and was about 50 /50 shove fold
heres the thread if anyone is interested it had some excellent player chime in all with differing opinions
www.pocketfives.com/poker-forums/7/help-solving-an-argument-4043802/p/4043802#4043802

[abscat]

If your reads are correct about the players involved I think this is a fold here. As you said, you are 2 away from the money. I know you said that you wanted to build a bigger stack for the FT but, if you call here and lose, you lose half your stack. And, that's assuming that if you iso Mr Shim folds and hasn't picked up a hand he is willing to go with in this spot. If you put Banks on a super tight range of 77+, AQo, AQs, AKo and AKs, you are roughly 62:37.