approx 30 bb final 2 tables fulltilt

[bishamonten]

so i keep preaching that late play is so important and you cant be afraid to loss if you think you reads are right so i posted these two hands i guess some may say they are spewy



www.thehandconverter.com/hands/399355

large stack so im opening just about any two and will fold to a three bet but didnt expect a flat by both sb and bb but figure there ranges to be huge.

neither i believe are checking any q and after my bet i will know if i am clubber or not and fold to any resistance

www.handhistoryconverter.com/NL-Holdem-Poker-Hand-22-BB-916967.php

So im not loving my line here at first but once in the hand it all fell in to place
20+ bb and i hate this stack size kinda in between so my first thought was to shove on the sb's potential steal attempt

then it crossed my mine to fold as we are nearing the ft bubble so in true BISH fashion I flat go figure.

at first the flop looks ugly but with two k's out there it is a potential steal attempt after villain bets ( who would bet a flopped set ) although with a flush draw and possible straight who knows but his bet felt fishy so i call and hope he checks the turn. the turn is unfriendly but he checks so i take the opportunity to steal my bet of over half the pot should convince him i mean business also it puts me under 20bb which should also show my commitment. he fold and im great lol only to puke it away later



these kinda illustrate some aggressive late play i think is needed to win like i said some probably think its spewy but i dont like watching my stack deplete woth out a fight

[mclucky]

Hand 1: Don't see much wrong with this if your steals are getting through a lot. Neither blind has a resteal stack so keep the pressure on - I like it. Obv once they flat you have to cbet / fold.

Hand 2: Flatting with 22 and 24bbs seems spewey to me rather than aggressive. I'd need a solid read that he's super passive post flop to even think this might work. You have no odds to set mine so what are you going to do when he cbets most flops? Unless you are planning to play back on any flop I'd prefer to shove or fold here. Shoving is very read dependent here and you probably have some since this looks like a FT.

As played: "but his bet felt fishy so i call and hope he checks the turn" On what are you basing this 'fishyness'? Are you folding if he doesn't check the turn? You now have 20% of your stack in there.

Obvioudly this hand worked out for you but I have to say this really well illustrates the reason most if not all coaches and posting advice generally advocates not including the result with the hand. The result influences people's view of correct / optimal lines so much that I don't think you'll get much useful feedback. Not having a go - just saying that it would have been much more interesting / useful to stop at villain's cbet and then again at villain's turn check.

Nice pot btw

[sickbay]

hand number 1.

I pretty much agree with lucky. What i'm thinking in this situation is:
the sb has some sort of a hand. the bb gets odds with any hand almost. so his range is wide.

all good.

after the flop:

i'm not 100% sure a queen wouldn't check here with the plan to check-raise you. Remember that you rasied on the button so you can't get much credit anyway.

Nevertheless , i do think that cbeting here is mandatory especially give that you do have a staack to bet/fold and still be in a good shape.

Well played

2. what lucky said! i'd shove here 99% of the time. unless he is like the nitties nit or something. you have alot of FE/ alot of FT-bubble fold equity [ don't underestimate their fear to bubble ] and a decent hand.

I do think that u'll get the result you got about 10% of the time or so.

This is the type of situation where i think with my fish-mind. don't do it. shove or fold.

[bishamonten]

yeah guys like i said on the second one i wanted to shove then fold then did the worse thing and flatted but when i flatted it wasnt for set value it was an indecision that when made i decided to out play the guy.

I never have been good at explaining stuff so i prob didnt do a good job at it , but i had a good read on the player he cbeted most the time and was very passive on the turn and i figured to he would miss an fire most the time and i would try to pick it up if i felt it was possible

i guess it may have been more play the player not the cards, cant really justify it any other way

got very lucky and maybe instead of aggressive play i should have said lucky play needed to win.