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Post by Goozfraba77 on Dec 6, 2009 12:31:55 GMT -5
I would like to hear some comments of this 3 HH , that i have some doubts: PS: keep in mind that this hands are from a $2.20 Satellite do the Sunday Million 250k Guaranteed. Hand #1 - With so many limpers i think i get no advantage of raising because it only make the pot larger and they call with any broadway and those cards could easily hit the flop, so i decided to play for set value. Then with such a raise on the button... Hand #2 - There are so many draws on that board and was so early that i think i've made the right decision... or not Hand #3 - Just to ask if this is a easy shove ? www.pokerxfactor.com/HH207104/41646_20091206_112827|41646
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fiber
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Post by fiber on Dec 6, 2009 14:19:49 GMT -5
Hand 1. I would raise pot or just over the pot, about 150. I don't think they all call, would be good to get it heads up. If they all call then nothing you can do. I wouldn't just assume that everyone will call though. If you do get a bunch of callers and over cards hit you can just be done with the hand, no big deal. Would you raise jacks in this spot? If you would then why not 10s. I would raise 10's and up but limp 9's I think. I would limp 8's for sure.
Hand 2. I would insta call. If you put them on a draw then you should call for sure as you are getting the best of it. I doubt Charly is massivly over shoving K10. He didn't raise the cutoff so I'm not worried about any of the big pairs and having hit a set (especially since you have one of the A's and one of the Q's). I would put him on something like KJ or J10, something like a pair and a gutterball or pair and fourflush or maybe even just a fourflush. Could possibly have QJ. You have to be ahead in this hand way more times than not.
Hand 3. Use sheets spreadsheet and pokerstove. I'll try and do it later when I have more time.
Keep in mind I'm no pro, just my opinions. I'm also interested in what others have to say.
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Post by Goozfraba77 on Dec 7, 2009 7:33:12 GMT -5
Thx for your reply Fiber,
I've went through the PUSH BOT - CAL BOT SPREADSHEET that is available in the forum and putting the big stack calling range in a Loose range... it is a -cEV shove, even if i put him on a Average range it will still be a -cEV shove, so i think i've made the right move.
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Post by huge on Dec 9, 2009 3:01:21 GMT -5
Hand 1 absolutely raise preflop. From the cutoff after limpers I like to give a little more incentive to the button to go away, so I might make it 190 or 200. If someone reshoves probably fold. Especially in a satellite picking up all those limps with TT is just fine. As played I don't think I can fold TT to the button raise.
Hand 2 yeah I call that shove - too many hands he could be shoving that you beat, and if he has a monster why didn't he let you bet it? Also I like a bigger raise preflop - you're not giving anyone a tough decision by raising 3x over limpers.
Hand 3 meh. Folding's fine, esp if you have some read on the blinds. Oh wait you were asking if it was a shove (sorry didn't look closely enough at your stack size) ... err, sometimes I shove there ... my concern is that the big blind is so deep. If I read him as loose I just fold. If I think he's tight maybe I flip a coin and shove half the time.
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